Lee Woofenden is an ordained minister, writer, editor, translator, and teacher. Some of us were blessed to have that ideal become a reality in a loving, lifelong marriage. If the Bible were meant to be the only source of knowledge about human life, God would not have given us thinking minds and a wealth of other sources of information and knowledge so that we can study and learn about our outer and inner worlds. I had been married once before and had 3 daughters when he came into my life. My husband passed away a month ago and I’m devastated. Hеrе аrе the fіvе problems in marrying a divorcee which are especially applicable to a divorced woman. Basically, that’s TWO strikes and you’re out, rather than three! Does the Bible not mention a second coming? By the time we reach heaven we will be with our soulmate, and our life and direction will be clear. I realize this doesn’t answer all of your questions. The depth of inner connection of mind and heart that occurs in real, spiritual marriage can exist only with one partner. And in some instances, the couples switched partners when the “four marriage” ended. Because I lost my mother and my wife in the same week and it was overwhelming to say the least. Does god choose people for each other, and those two people know it as soon as they see each other? Godspeed on your spiritual journey! You’re not bothering me. The only thing we leave behind is our physical body. This is my scenario, SO has been married twice, no kids. I never once regretted marrying him or our life together. Your answer otherwise was very helpful. Good question. Or will he find another that is a good fit before i get there? It is this character that we have formed through our lifetime on earth, and up to the time of our death, that will determine who we will be married to in heaven. Once you have annulled your second marriage, it is unlikely you would risk criminal prosecution. I know from your previous comments (above) that you’ve recently been through the wringer. Now I’m not quite sure what to think. What he said in that verse is that people will not get married in the resurrection. Falling in love with someone else while you are married is certainly not unusual. 3. At the very thought of doing such a thing, a sense of coldness fills them from head to foot. . As with everything in life, people handle relationships differently. Period. It is why we think about adultery even when we don’t do it. At age 40. Thanks for stopping by, and for your comment. Remember, our life here on earth is a process of growth, development, discovery, and decision about who we are and who we want to become. (Secrets of Heaven #68). If she doesn’t love you, it simply doesn’t matter how much you love her. If we required 100% correctness from a scientist, philosopher, or theologian before accepting anything they say, we’d have to reject everything and believe nothing. Because that woman is not perfect for him. People tend to blame divorces on the women, just as surely as they notice a messy or dirty home and fault the wife for her shoddy housekeeping. And I am aware that such evangelical or fundamentalist sects view themselves as especially biblically-based in their theology. God does care about you. Paul mentions in 1 Corinthian 6:9 that adulterers will not inherit the kingdom of God. Sleep, work? What Happens To Us When We Die? then I asked him why god wouldn’t continue to join people together in a marriage like relationship in the next age? The issue of getting married in this life is more complicated. This book examines how the divorce cycle has transformed family life in contemporary America by drawing on two national data sets. Thank you for replying. I know a couple who are genuine Christians, but both were previously married, divorced and now are remarried. They may have a blender, a coffee maker, a tea kettle. They're quick to assume what they consider the obvious, that I must be pretty crappy marriage material because I "failed" at two of them. Now he’s gone and I truly don’t know how I’m ever going to survive this. Marriage lasted: 11 months. We were falling in love, I had already fallen deeply in love with him and were doing so well, but a month into the relationship he had a massive heart attack and passed away. You’ll have to make up your own mind about that one. Each of us has—and is—a unique set of loves, beliefs, and skills. Hang in there. This is something only the infinite, eternal love and wisdom of God could accomplish. He had been lonely to the point of despair…I had just become lonely enough to try again. "Why, mamma, he's my Very Ideal! I'd marry him to-morrow!"Mrs. Atwater paused in her darning, and let the stocking collapse flaccidly into the work-basket in her lap. "Not at barely thirteen, would you?" she said. So, to quote the famous Stephen Stills song, “If you can’t be with the one you love, love the one you’re with.”. We deeply believe God wants us to be happy and fulfilled, even as He is, and that no one will be lonely or sad, unless they end up in hell. So I put out all these articles for you and others to read and gain some insight, help, and comfort. Perhaps you have some other source? Thank you for sharing this article. Thank you. That is a very personal choice. It may just mean that our life has been going in the wrong direction, or had simply become unsustainable as it was, and that it’s time for us to change direction and move on to the next phase of our life—ideally a higher phase than the previous one. Some psychologists believe that polyamory could function similarly to sexual orientation, but that’s another component of the argument for another day. Perhaps I fall for the “wrong” kind of men. What if I am so very in love with him, but he had someone else to be with in Heaven? As I said to you on another thread, there are some things the Bible doesn’t tell us because the Bible is focused on its primary purpose of leading, guiding, and motivating us away from damnation and hell, and toward salvation and heaven. Or maybe we have moved on from that stage of our life, and we are no longer a match for one another. Some Christians have expanded this to mean that any couple that has sex is united in soul. … God loves us, and wants to give us every happiness. As for what happens to such relationships after death, they are no more stable in the spiritual world than they are here. And you don’t go to hell for that. In all honesty I fell in love with him not his disability. No one else can make it for us. If we have been married more than once, we will have the opportunity to meet and get together with each of the people we were married to. Though some other animals besides humans do mate for life (and many humans do not mate for life), no other animal gets married. In this instance, I feel the need to specify that I’m not referring to the illegal and generally coercive and unequal practice of one person having multiple spouses (almost always one man having multiple subservient wives), but the consensual and egalitarian practice of multiple people mutually agreeing to be in a romantic (and often sexual) relationship with each other. So for him it was not speculation, but based on information given to him by the angels themselves. ( Log Out / What is in store for me? The one with whom you have become one in spirit through your lifetime here on earth. The chart below shows the percentage of people who married at least once, given the age. For a related article, see: “Can we Keep our Friends in the Afterlife?” In heaven we live in communities in which there are many people we see each day, just like here on earth. I’ve had good ones, but this is intense. But we will hardly notice that because we then live in our spiritual body, which looks and feel exactly the same as our physical body did on earth. I know I probably sound crazy and rightfully so. She’s passionate about exploring this beautiful world that ethically-produced goods help to protect. And until we recognize that we really can’t do it alone, we are likely to face harder and harder trials, until we finally surrender our pride and self-reliance, and recognize our need of God’s love, God’s guidance, and God’s power in our life. I thought after we left this earth as humans there would be no more pain and suffering. Found inside – Page 124Their own marriages are reasonably happy and free from strife . But Chita and Bobby are having an “ affair . ” They came for help , after a year of blissful relationship , because it had gotten “ heavy , " meaning , emotionally ... This puts tremendous pressure on their seminarians to get married before they get ordained. Everything essential for our salvation is stated clearly in the text of the Bible. People who do have a good heart underneath it all will settle into monogamous marriages, just as happened over time on The Farm. If a couple has been married in a Register Office, the partners can have a religious marriage ceremony afterwards. Not necessarily. But you already know that. Sometimes it is due to physical health conditions that have sapped tho body’s energy and vitality, so the person really can’t do all that much. No! It is what we love most, what we truly believe in our heart, what we do with our life based on those loves and beliefs. Is it possible for a spirit who have crossed on to feel insecure and emotionally vulnerable for leaving his/her beloved partner here on earth. It’s how we learn anything worth knowing. Yes. My questions are: How can you know whether God has joined together two people in the institution of marriage? Very interesting what your priest said about people being married in heaven if they were already married here. I ncest is defined as a sexual relationship between two people who are too closely related to marry, such as parents and children, siblings, or other pairs of close family members. For anyone who truly desires a partner in marriage God provides the right person—if not here, then in the next life. SHOULD I DIVORCE HER?? For a second wedding, the guest list may be quite limited -- just family and very close friends. Didn’t Jesus Say There’s No Marriage in Heaven? In fact, it specifically denies this. For many others of us, though, that was not to be. However, the work won’t be forced or laborious. I was talking to my priest about this topic (Orthodox Priest). What is the fate of such relationships in the afterlife, assuming everyone involved is acting from a place of mutual love for one another and according to their consciences? We actually spent the first 2 years of our relationship using AOL and just talking on the phone. In the other he was telling us that yes, we will not be able to bear some of the temptations and struggles we face. I assume by “this guy” you mean Swedenborg. The experience at The Farm suggests to me that plural marriages attempted by people who are spiritual in focus do not last. For those couples where at least one had been married before, the figure was just 18%. About that saying, it comes from 1 Corinthians 10:13: No testing has overtaken you that is not common to everyone. But of course, I’m not God, and I only know what you’ve told me here, so I can’t say what your future holds. Those who make the choice to remarry, and who believe in eternal marriage, will naturally think about which of their loves they will be with in eternity. Is infidelity really the worst way to betray your spouse? Will it be a kind of “speed-dating” or are there social groups where spirits meet spirits or when we first arrive in the spirit world is our true mate waiting to greet us and if not, why not, since that’s the way it seems to me it should be. Yes, the Bible says that Jesus will return. See: It is true that the Bible doesn’t mention Adam and Eve having sex until after the Fall. This doesn’t necessarily mean you have to cut off all contact. We may marry for social or financial reasons. Marry more than once, you’re a dunce. And I presume that since you are asking Google, you are not getting the answers you seek from your current pastor and select group of Christian men who offer you advice and biblical counsel. It doesn’t bring together just any old people. We put on a false front for social reasons, or to fit in at work, or because we’re afraid to show who we truly are, or for any of the many other reasons that we hide our true self from the world—and often even from ourselves. Legal marriage is an earthly institution. So I’ve spent a lot of time since my second divorce looking at what I’ve brought to the marital table and why, and what I want to change. They first exchanged vows in 2010 but split in 2012. God’s Word does tell us, though, that it is better to marry than to burn with passion (1 Corinthians 7:9). Violating that would feel like violating their own self and their own soul. You must consider these issues before going ahead with the relationship. However, assuming we have chosen love, truth, and compassion over selfishness, greed, and corruption, our outward, bodily appearance will change until we are physically at the prime of young adulthood. Rather, I’m saying that there are possibilities for love here on earth even if the person you marry here doesn’t turn out to be your true spiritual partner. Two thousand years ago a group of skeptics asked Jesus the same type of question—though they brought it to a ridiculous extreme. Following the British PM’s third marriage, which was celebrated in Westminster Cathedral – a Catholic church – many have questioned how someone who has been married twice before can marry in the Catholic Church. What is the Meaning and Significance of Gilgal in the Bible? Or is it something totally different? That is an excellent question—and one of the reasons I lean toward the idea that there is not one and only one person who could ever be our soulmate, but perhaps several, and that having found a close match, we grow into being one another’s eternal partner. Found insideThe author presents new arguments which support the view that Paul, not Jesus, was the founder of Christianity. What about after you die and you have your settled character what about when we start living in the afterlife will we simply build on our character we made on earth or what ever we do in the spiritual world can be something new separate from what we did back on earth? Do the Teachings of Emanuel Swedenborg take Precedence over the Bible? Sarah Spoljaric is a California girl through and through. Being single should not be viewed as a curse or punishment, but as an opportunity to serve God wholeheartedly (1 Corinthians 7:32-36). This is getting long, so I’ll respond in a separate comment on the other issues you brought up. I do delete questions from fundamentalist Christians whose only purpose is to attack and condemn the biblical and Christian teachings presented here. (Mark 10:6–9). You are the only one in your shoes, and you’re the one who will have to make that decision—if she doesn’t divorce you first. They quote verses such as 1 Corinthians 6:16: “Do you not know that whoever is united to a prostitute becomes one body with her? I do believe that when it comes your time to pass over to the spiritual world, your husband will be there holding out his hand for you. (For more on the stages we go through after death, see “What Happens To Us When We Die?”). If you could point me to any official church materials on this question, I would very much appreciate it. It doesn’t last forever. Well, hours later and I’d devoured the whole thing! Fabulous family drama… will tear at your heart. I was so engrossed… I was not aware until the story ended. The writing is exquisite. It feels like you are living in the book. To summarize: what is the Christian and Swedenborgian view of people in a mutually loving, consensual, emotionally stable, and faithful polyamorous relationship? The best way to have confidence that Swedenborg was right about his theology is to learn it and study it and consider whether it makes sense and is good. Lee I do agree that there is no marriage relationship in heaven as people have commonly thought of and experienced legal and social marriage here on earth. But from a spiritual perspective, marriage is much more than that. Perhaps one of the most engaging couples on Marrying Millions is Bill Hutchinson and Bri Ramirez because of their extremely unconventional family situation. I was told he was depressed and was looking for me. But I fall back on the idea that even if someone who might have been our eternal partner chooses hell instead of heaven, God’s plan is not frustrated. This may or may not be the case in marriages that a priest or minister joins together. Just in the past decade we’ve discovered thousands of planets orbiting other stars. On that, see: “What If I’m In Love with Someone I Can’t Have?”. Still, even they’re not exempt from raised eyebrows. Then the two of you will indeed stay together to eternity. This can be confirmed by many passages in the Bible. Congratulations on your upcoming marriage! A relationship comes down to love, trust, and communication—and I find all of that in mine. Is the Doctrine of the Trinity Polytheistic? And if you can’t do that, then it would be better for both of you if you did cut off all contact. Found insideBut Nicholas L. Syrett challenges this assumption in his sweeping and sometimes shocking history of youthful marriage in America. This habit of ours continues right into that first stage in the spiritual world. Here are two articles that speak of these things further: The Bible says that ” What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder” (Mark 10:9). And for a much deeper and more detailed look at Jesus’ words about marriage in the afterlife, see a series of three articles starting with: Didn’t Jesus Say There’s No Marriage in Heaven? If you want to remarry but are unsure of whether you are still legally married to someone else, it is a good idea to be certain before moving forward with the subsequent marriage or else you risk certain penalties depending on your state. In the normal course of events, if you die as an adult, by the time you move on from the world of spirits to your eternal home in heaven, you will already have found your marital partner and gotten married–if you weren’t already married to that person on earth. I had to dig it out from there and resurrect it manually. Jesus’ response focused mostly on the reality of the afterlife. I know a few people who are married and divorced three times. See: This does not mean that all earthly marriages will break up in heaven, and all people will find other partners. Any such purely physical causes would be removed, and the person would have a fully healthy and functioning spiritual body without the former limitations of the old physical body. However, I believe that the Lord has someone in mind for them—and as I say in the article, it will be the person they are closest to in spirit. At that point, we’ll be able to see clearly who we ourselves are in spirit, and who our future bride or groom is in spirit, so that it will be clear to us that we and that person fit together as a couple. So I believe that if one of us is in a relationship here on earth with someone who along the way chooses hell instead of heaven, God will in due time provide another partner who will share our spiritual path and continue to travel that path with us to eternity. Marriage never made sense to me anyway. For any marriage, both parties need to be present at the time of application. If a man over the age of 40 has been married before, he is more likely to marry than a 40-year-old man who has never been married. The actress has been married twice before and shares her daughter with one of her ex-husbands. I quit….. I’m sorry to hear that you feel that way. Heaven, Regeneration, and the Meaning of Life on Earth. Is Heaven Physical? Unfortunately, Christians ever since have thought he was saying there is no marriage at all in the afterlife. There is no marriage in heaven period, no relationship like earth, it is far beyond what our earthly minds can comprehend, but for sure there is no need for a spouse. More than half of all men and women over the age of 15 have been married only once. While I tend to be on the not-that-big-a-deal end of the spectrum, I did have to face some of my self-conscious demons when, on our first date, my now-boyfriend told me he’d been married before. The sphere of marriage is the sphere of heaven itself because it comes down from the heavenly marriage of the Lord and the church. If being born a sinner is still free will, then being born righteous would be free will. Some forums can only be seen by registered members. Our Site will occasionally contain (paid) links to, and quotation of, material from other sites. But this happened that we might not rely on ourselves but on God, who raises the dead. I very much suspect that most of the “Christian” beliefs that you have been taught, and that you now hold to, are not biblical or Christian at all, but rather come from human theologians such as Athanasius, Anselm, Aquinas, Luther, and Calvin, who replaced biblical teachings with their own human-invented doctrines. 4 times married that's quite a few ex wife's His ex told you he is a serial cheater, and you think she is lying You said he already cheated on you... They know as soon as they see each other. Thanks for stopping by, and for your comment and question. Reach out to others. The Bible never says that we are justified or saved by faith alone. And that reflects the reality that marriage love, from the inner union of souls right out to the physical lovemaking, produces spiritual “children” in the form of new love, new understanding, new inspiration, new compassion, and a new dedication to living life for the benefit of other people as God commanded us to do. I wed just a few months shy of my 21st birthday, a Starter Marriage (which we talk about in The New I Do: Reshaping Marriage for Skeptics, Realists and Rebels) — what did I know? To what group of people Paul was referring, was it believers or unbelievers? It may or may not be the case in marriages that the state joins together, also known as legal marriages. Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani’s rocky marital history — he’s now on wife No. Then go from there. I know you can’t give me a for sure answer, but I’m hoping you can atleast give me your honest opinion. What about Matthew 5:27-30? It’s not just you, but most of traditional Christianity that has “missed it.” Jesus did not say that there is no marriage in heaven. For more on these points, and others, please see this article, and the articles linked from it: “Christian Beliefs” that the Bible Doesn’t Teach. Here is another article that covers this a little more fully: If “Christians” have told you that Jesus said there’s no marriage in heaven, please read the article linked at the very top of this linked one. I’m so sorry to hear about your husband’s death. The short answer, from my perspective, is that as long as he is married, he’s simply not available. But even if that is the case, God still has someone in mind for you—and it will be the one you are truly one with in heart and spirit. See: If a couple is spiritually married here on earth, meaning that they are one in mind and spirit, then they will remain married in the afterlife. That sometimes means asking hard questions or laying down difficult challenges that aren’t always well received – as my Q’s or comments obviously will challenge the status quo here. I also never claimed to have all the answers… quite the contrary, I only seek the truth and find the answers to them. Would people have married and been given in marriage had the fall of sin not occurred, or would they have “known their spouses” instead? My apologies if you came back and saw that your comment had disappeared. But more often than not they, too, end in divorce. In that case, you will each find a spouse that you’re even closer to. The Bible never says that Jesus paid the penalty for our sins. Now number 3, she and I lasted about 4, almost 5 years. We divorced over money. Nothing more, nothing less. That brings me to present wife, we have been married almost 20 years. If we have been selfish, greedy, and evil, we will grow ugly and disfigured in a way that reflects our disfigured spirit. If a marriage isn’t mutual, it’s not a marriage. It was taught only people with great ability and “the juice” were in plural marriages. What is the Biblical basis for disbelief in the doctrine of the Trinity? You’ll have to make up your own mind based on the believability of what he wrote. For some it is love at first sight. My Pastor said that was not in the Bible???? Worst-case scenario is that, as you fear, it is wishful thinking, and ultimately the two of you aren’t right for each other. Maybe that person actually was our true spiritual partner. In short, genuine marriage starts with our deepest soul level, and unites us from there all the way down to our bodies. He wrote: I realize that many people will say it is not possible for anyone to talk with spirits and angels while still living in the physical body. . But even then, there will always be more to learn about one another, and deeper to go. My first marriage was to my high school sweetheart, but it ended when our son was 4 months old. I’m not perfect,” was how he explained things. Eventually, though, it will become crystal clear to us exactly who we are, and exactly who our various partners are. There is only mating. Though it’s mostly about people who have not been married on earth, the same principle applies to people who were married on earth to someone who turns out not to be their eternal partner. When I said that we’ll be with the one we have become one in spirit with through our lifetime here on earth, I didn’t necessarily mean that would be with someone we’ve spent our adult life with here on earth. It’s not unromantic or anticlimactic to get married in your 40s, or to get married more than once. But he also said that the legalistic relationship that they called “marriage” does not exist in heaven. This is the marriage that exists in heaven—something those ancient materialistic skeptics, who asked Jesus their crazy hypothetical question, could not even conceive of. Jesus did not say there is no marriage in heaven! I question whether any polyamorous relationships really are emotionally stable and faithful. The Bible does talk about a man and a woman becoming one flesh. It would be my great pleasure to do just that. If the marriage was a close and deep one, it is still possible that the one who remains on earth might remarry, because it is hard to be alone. Adultery is a legitimate cause for divorce from just about any perspective. I want us to resume our marriage just like it was here on earth. Thanks for stopping by, and for your comment. My motive for answering, then, is so that you might be able to receive and accept real answers to your underlying questions about being married more than once, and also about marriage in the afterlife. Then, although we still can experience the full range of human emotions, and we will still go through our emotional ups and downs, there will be nothing like the low points of pain and suffering that we undergo here on earth. Many, if not most of us go through more than one relationship. And it is very intimate. Of course, human relationships are complex. I've always dreamed of meeting my match and getting married. In a real marriage, the social, legal, and physical union flows seamlessly from the spiritual union that makes two souls into one soul. Who is God? If you wish to re-post your comment using a screen name that doesn’t give away your identity, I would be happy to respond. For more on this, see: What Happens To Us When We Die? Meanwhile, I wish you and your wife all the best—and I believe that you will always be together. For more on what we experience when we enter the afterlife, see: “What Happens To Us When We Die?” See also the section titled “How are my parents doing?” in the article, “What Does it Mean When My Parents Die? The spiritual world is not as unknowable as materialists think. .” The way God designed us, “being fruitful and multiplying” happens by having sex. Who is Jesus Christ? There is no clear, detailed description of the afterlife in the Bible. We wish the two of you all the best of happiness and love. We are not radically free. Can you Fall in Love in Heaven if you Haven’t Found Someone on Earth? on December 24, 2017 at 19:15 UTC. Even if you were to go on to marry someone else, if you and your husband had “a love stronger than the ones in any fairy tale” you would return to him after your own death. And as always, I’m very happy to answer any further questions you may have. If, after reading them, you still have questions, please don’t hesitate to ask. If I can somehow connect to my husband I feel like maybe I should try and see what happens. That common Protestant slogan sounds sort of biblical, but it’s just plain not in the Bible. Then, I had a relationship where we didn’t reside together, but considered ourselves married though we were not legally married. Many of us found one we felt we could spend the rest of our life with. It’s a lot of pains and sufferings. It wasn’t until we were fairly close some months into the relation that she finally admitted she was twice-divorced. Are we going to call them all insane because God sent angels to give them a message? It is true that some of them sound very physical and of-this-world. If a person were the jealous and insecure type before death, that person will continue to be a jealous and insecure type after death. 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